With Marjorie Grice
Carol: Hello, I’m Carol, from CJG Wellness Community, where we help you live life to the full.
We’re here for another of our monthly chats and I’m excited to tell you that we have Marjorie Grice from Nourish Inside Out, which is based in York, UK.
It’s an exciting, different type of therapy but I’ll let Marjorie explain all that.
So, hello Marjorie and thank you for coming today and I’ll hand over to you.
Marjorie: Hello. It’s lovely to be here and thanks for the invite to come onto your network and have a talk about my holistic nutrition that I offer.
So, as Carol said, I’m Marjorie and I’m a menopause nutritionist that’s based in Europe, in the UK but I work nationally and my passion is to help ladies get their menopause mojo back. That’s how I like to say it because I feel that that time of life is a time when it’s not just about the symptoms, which is obviously a huge factor but it’s about finding your life again and often finding your identity. So it’s the bigger picture, isn’t it?
Carol: That sounds really interesting. Yeah, thank you, Marjorie. I haven’t realised that it was… affected so many people. Yeah that’s great.
Marjorie: Yeah it does. I mean and nutrition obviously has a huge part and I’ll be explaining a little bit more about how… what I exactly offer, shortly.
So, yeah, it’s more about the symptoms… more than a symptom, isn’t it? It’s about finding our identity and making the most. So I like empowering women and to make the most of themselves and their lives. Especially at that time of life, ‘cos I think it’s a challenging time but obviously everything that I’m going to share today is applicable to anyone and we’re covering the topic of stress, which obviously applies to all of us and we need to all be looking at how we manage our stress.
So today I’m going to talk a little bit about how I got into this and my background and what nutritional therapy or holistic nutrition, as I like to call it, is and how it works. I’ll talk a little bit about menopause and how to identify it because as Carol and I have been chatting before, I think it’s really important that… oh actually, menopause does affect everybody. It doesn’t just affect women, does it? It affects spouses and husbands and families, as well but it is important to have some understanding about it and then I’m going to be talking all about stress, a little bit about the science. Again the link to menopause but also how it affects everyone and then finishing off with some top tips, at the end.
So does that sound okay, Carol?
Carol: Yeah. No. The top tips I think would be really useful. It’s always good to have ideas how to combat stress. So, thank you.
Marjorie: Absolutely.
So I’ve always been fascinated by Health and Wellness all my life and I started out in the beauty industry back in the 19xx’s and actually I worked at a health farm because back then spas tended to be more health focused. I mean I’m not saying they’re not necessarily now but it was much more health regimes and detoxes and things like , and I progressed to
management, and I did enjoy it but then as you… as you’re likely aware spas have moved away a lot from that. There are more companies getting into the Wellness aspect of things but they have moved away from that a lot and I got more fascinated by the health. I mean, it was always the health that pulled me into that arena, anyway. Although I did have an interest in skin care and stuff like that. I still do. So I progressed in my career, sort of specialising more with sports, massage and skin treatments and a little bit of holistic therapies. I did stone therapy and various things. I have a spiritual awareness. I do try incorporate that in my work, as well but I like it… I like it when the science ties up with it all, as well. I like to match the two together.
Carol: That sounds good. Yeah. It’s always interesting, isn't it?
Marjorie: Yeah and they do match up. Don’t they? Quite often.
Carol: I’m finding more and more, they match up, yes. Making sense.
Marjorie: So part of my journey was that I did suffer with IBD, which is like an inflammatory bowel and autoimmune illness, when I was in my 30’s, which went on undiagnosed for a long time. So I certainly got into looking at natural remedies, which I was already into but it sort of increased that interest, and I explored it a lot more, and did my own research, which back then was probably less available. Obviously we didn’t have Instagram. So, yeah it was a bit different back then but it certainly got me on that route of looking more at nutrition as a factor for helping health. It made me aware of the naturopathic approaches that are available. So as my career progressed, I worked around my family, really and moved around with my husband’s job and I set up various small businesses. Some based home around my family, which worked really well, in Scotland and then moved to York in 2005, where I set up a business. So I’m not in the city centre but in the suburbs of York, really. For a while I did that.
I also worked out of a hotel. So, I have quite a varied career, sort of, within that industry. I did sell products for a little bit, nutrition products and talks and things like that and that also made me realise that I wanted to study again and learn more about nutrition. And so finally, just approaching my 50’s, I retrained in nutritional therapy. So it’s quite an arduous course. I did it in London, at a reputable clinic. So I’m a registered Nutritionist now, Nutrional Therapist with bands, which means I would have to do TPT and all the rest of it and I’m properly regulated. And I think that can be an issue in nutrition, can’t it and some people find something works for them but then actually, you know, it may not work for everybody and it is quite a personalised thing.
Carol: Yes. Yeah. I can see where you’re coming from, yeah. You need to be clear what you’re talking about, yeah.
Marjorie: So a lot of people assume that I probably had a terrible menopause but I think what made me focus on that was, I think, I just got a passion that, again, like I said before, to help women live their best life, so to speak and get their mojo back, in general but then when I was studying and trying to work, as well, through the menopause, it made me realise, when I learned the facts about it and exactly what was going on, I realised, you know, I didn’t have that awareness and so many people don’t. We sort of look… I can look back and think, “Oh that’s why I was feeling more stressed at that time,” you know, and I probably would have addressed it differently. I would have, for a start, I would have made myself relax a bit more because I think we would have appreciated that our body’s having to go through a lot of things. So we need to give ourselves a bit more of a break around that time and perhaps the family could have understood more, as well and then offer more support. So I think it’s more that side of things. So it’s not that I didn’t have symptoms but I didn’t have… like an early menopause or anything particularly dramatic but I think it’s more that aspect thing. So I’ll talk a little bit more about how to identify menopause, Carol, if that would be useful.
Carol: Well, yeah. You could put a few facts in there, yeah. As we said it really affects everybody in one way or another. It’ll be useful to know, yeah. Thank you.
Marjorie: So I do often direct people to look at the nice guidelines if they’re considering going to the doctor because that gives you their language to speak, if you wanna get some support in that way and obviously I’m not a doctor. So I’m not going to be giving medical advice today but that’s a good starting point because often they’re very busy that you don’t get long, so if you put it in their language it actually helps them think, “Oh yeah, it probably is menopause.” So it helps with that process, doesn’t it?
Carol: Yes.
Marjorie: … and he’s also… don’t often test for it. So often going with a bit of a more of an open mind can help, as well. I think some women get a bit upset ‘cos they can’t get a test to tell them but there’s good reason for that, it’s because the test they offer doesn’t always show it up. So you often might get a negative when actually it could be positive. So, a false positive, is what they call it. So…
Carol: Yeah.
Marjorie: …false positive. There's a reason for that. The menopause, as I’m sure you know, is when menstruation ceases but it’s retrospective. So we don't always know the date precisely and you know, strictly speaking, we were called menopausal after we've been without our periods for a full year and then you're entering post menopause. The average age in the UK is 51 and it does vary with different countries, which is interesting, isn’t it but you can start symptoms up to eight years before that, obviously. So it can be quite a long time and after. It can go on afterwards, as well. Things like… well I mentioned anxiety, didn’t I? Mood changes, hot flashes and night sweats. The ones that are often talked about but actually those aren’t the main things that people come to me for help with. Its more the brain fog and the joint pain and you know, stress I think, as well.
Carol: Yes.
Marjorie: So, how it happens?
Well, it's quite a demanding time for the body, around that time. So we’ve got huge hormone shifts going on, on the whole, you know, menstruation cycle is quite a complex cycle anyway, when you look at all the hormones that are involved. It’s not just oestrogen and progesterone. There’s other hormones involved and they are going up and down at certain times of the month and it is a complex process. So at menopause when all of that’s having to change quite dramatically and actually, oestrogen comes right down, it plummets right down. So it is quite… quite a change and obviously naturally but the body does do it naturally, very gradually but I’ve… my belief is that when our body isn’t functioning optimally we actually feel that more. So if we are more stressed, if our gut health isn’t correct, if we’re not looking after ourselves properly, then we are going to have more symptoms and I think that could be true of any of us. Couldn’t it? Really.
Carol: Yes. Yeah.
Marjorie: They say menopause isn’t an illness but in even any natural process that we have our body has to go through, it’s not going to cope as well, is it, if our body isn’t in full health. Kind of makes logical sense and so the reason it happens is that as we get older our egg producing follicles actually decline. So, obviously, when we’re fertile these mature follicles produce oestrogen and then that keeps the oestrogen levels higher but then as menopause kicks in and those follicles are declining, we’re actually getting less and less oestrogen produced in the body. So eventually it does cease but during the time before that, which we tend to call perimenopause, there’s a lot of erratic hormone levels, which can cause the over reactive menstruation and other symptoms that are probably a little bit more dramatic. Sometimes the night sweats and so on, that we mentioned and then post menopause, obviously, things are a lot more stable. So often symptoms tail off again but some do continue to have some symptoms. So that's just a bit of an overview.
Carol: That’s good. That’s good. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Thank you.
Marjorie: Great. So now I’ll go on to talk about what actually is a Nutritional Therapist, which is what my qualification is. I’ve actually come across the term… well I've used the term Holistic Nutritionist today because I think this actually encompasses better what I do because when we talk about it being a nutritionist, people assume that you are only addressing nutrition and it’s only about nutrient deficiencies or lack. Not many of us are… well some of us can be deficient in certain things but it's more that we don't have optimal amounts or lots of them, isn’t it?
Carol: Yes.
Marjorie: …which we need. So yeah, it’s not about that. Actually what I do is the ‘root cause approach’ but it’s a root cause medicine really. We’re looking at. So, we do look at the biochemical imbalances that is going on and you can include, you know, the mind and the spiritual aspect of that as well, which I think is really interesting. I’m getting much more interested in that aspect of things and how we can use other… well, the things we know about, like meditation and so on. I’ll touch on that later but yeah, it all impacts on that area, which I think is quite interesting. So yeah, it's not just about, you know, looking at macro nutrients and counting calories, it’s certainly not about that. It’s much more about being a bit of a detective and looking at the root cause of things, and often it is stress. That’s the massive root cause and so much…
Carol: Yes. Root cause, so much. Yes.
Marjorie: You know, you know… we often say, you know, you could eat the perfect diet but if you don’t address stress, actually, you probably won’t make much progress because it’s so fundamental to the thing, isn’t it?
Carol: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The stress is mammoth.
Marjorie: So it’s a different approach and we have, obviously, hormones and the immune system, and the digestive system, and the brain, are all connected, you know, often by the hormones and the gut health… gut and so on but they’re all connected. So one will affect the other. So the beauty of the root cause approach is that once we address a root cause, we often find lots of symptoms due to get helped. We’re not just looking at the symptoms but we’re supporting the imbalance and then we’re balancing out the body but it’s not a quick fix and it can take time and that’s where I’m for coaching that helps people to put these changes in place, which I think is quite powerful to help people actually make the changes. And I think that’s also where we can touch on spiritual things and what’s gone on in our lives before. What might be holding us back and a lot of those tools can really help us move forward with our life in general but also with our eating habits and improving our own health.
Carol: Yes. Yeah. No. Proving you’re getting to the fundamentals is so important to affect everything. Yeah.
Marjorie: There’s something else I’ve come across is, you know, I like… a lot of people think, their genetics. They’re kinda stuck with their genetics and, you know, they think, “Oh well, my parents were diabetic, I’ll be diabetic.”
Carol: Yes.
Marjorie: …but it doesn’t actually mean that because we can actually change our epigenetic
or change our outcomes by our diet and lifestyle and it is quite typically evidenced.
Carol: Yeah.
14:41
OUR EPIGENETICS CAN BE CHANGED
Marjorie: So it’s not our core DNA obviously but our epigenetics can be changed.
Carol: Yes.
Marjorie: Really interesting, isn’t it?
Carol: Yeah. No. I think that is something that people really aren’t aware of, so much. So that’ll be good to talk about that. Yeah.
Marjorie: So now I want to just move onto stress and, you know, what a vicious circle that can
cause, especially for women in that menopause and at any time, in fact, for anyone, when we’re juggling different responsibilities. I think women are kinda guilty of taking on a lot and trying to please people and, you know, having lots of roles because we just seem to have that nurturing and that… but I’m generalising, obviously, but yeah, that we tend to take it under, when we do a lot of the roles with family and cooking, and house, and all the different
things. So and menopause, often it’s older relatives, as well, isn’t it?
Our teenagers, there’s a lot of stuff going on but it does impact and I’m sure you’ll be able to apply that to your own life. It’ just busyness of modern life is a massive thing, isn’t it?
Carol: Yes and it's what you expect of yourself, as well. You’ll have to really look at it and think, “Well no, I don’t need to seem like that. Do I?”
Marjorie: It’s about taking a step back and that’s why I know from my own self that I realised I actually thrived on that busyness and activity, and almost thrived on stress. It can be a bit of an addiction, can’t it and can go back. So yeah, I can digress. I’ll try and keep on topic.
Carol: Yes.
Marjorie: So to bring menopause into that, which after this I’ll probably talk more generally but I said it can be exacerbated by stress, just because of the increased hormones that have been released are stress hormones. They will have an impact on our sex hormones. They’re very closely related. The adrenal glands actually produces all of them. So it’s gonna have a lot of work to do and actually what happens is, the body will prioritise the stress response over menopause, over fertility, over lots of other functions because it thinks you’re running away from a problem or a danger. So that’s important for survival. So it puts that in the
priority. So you’ll be lacking the nutrients and the building blocks for the sex hormones, which is obviously gonna have a knock-on effect on the body.
Marjorie: So I’m sure you’ve all heard of ‘fight and flight response,’ which is what kicks in if we’re in immediate danger. So in modern life it’s not usually running away from a wild animal but it might be like you’ve got a deadline for work or you’re in a traffic jam, running for the bus, which you’re late for, things like that. So they’re over quite quickly and then you sort of just relax and, you know, you can almost be more relaxed afterwards, can you, because all these stress hormones disappear. The problem happens when it’s sustained for longer. So this sort of short term response is the sympathetic nervous system or ‘fight and flight.’ It’s a bit like the accelerator on a car. So it's giving you that extra energy and all the blood is getting diverted to your eyes, your muscles, your heart will beat faster but things like digestion will slow down and, like I said, we’re not gonna be particularly fertile, either. You won’t be in the mood.
Carol: Yeah.
Marjorie: We’re gonna be running away but yeah, the problem arises where the body over reacts, with modern stresses obviously because they’re often are assisting and we’re not physically active, either. Physical activity can actually help to get rid of some of those stress hormones, which I’m sure those of us who exercise, would appreciate. So yeah, it’s when it carries on for a long time that that’s the problem and it's what we call the ‘hypothalamus pituitary access,’ the HPA, keeps being activated and then we get chronic levels of cortisol being secreted into the body and that will cause problems, like raised blood sugar and potentially diabetes, and heart disease and you can see why because obviously, this blood is getting pumped round constantly but also, it's because the cortisol becomes sort of dysfunctional. It's designed to sustain the stress response but when that goes on for a long time, it just becomes a bit dysfunctional and it influences the immune system as well, which can make us more prone to infections and disease, potentially even autoimmune and just makes us less resilient to disease and stress as well, actually, ‘cos that can actually affect long time, you know, we have traumas going on then it can actually make us prone, you know, more or less resilient just stressful situations, as time goes on. Does that make sense?
Carol: Yes. Yeah.
19:35
STRESS AFFECTS US BOTH
MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY
Marjorie: So I touched a bit about how stress affects us. It affects us both mentally and physically, doesn’t it, if you think about it. So physically I mentioned digestions cause the bloods diverted away from the stomach and the gut. We’re not going to be digesting our food properly, our stomach acid stops, that’s quite key for digesting protein and that can obviously lead to problems with the gut and having dysbiosis, which is an imbalance in the gut bacteria and means we won’t be absorbing all the nutrients we need. From a hormonal point of view we won't be able to get rid of used hormones and that has a knock-on effect on the liver, as well. And also, you know, microbes that shouldn't be there and toxins, all of that can build up and lead to an unhealthy gut, poor digestion, even weight gain and, you know, IBS is so common, isn’t it, these days.
Carol: Yes. Yeah. Very common.
21:15
OUR MIND IS CONNECTED WITH THE GUT
Marjorie: …fats and so on and then some of the other physical things I talked about, obviously, increased heart, cardiovascular, muscle tension, that’s a result of being in chronic stress often, and then we can get disturbed sleep, can’t we, quite easily, when we’re stressed because our cortisol levels are raised and cortisol is the complete opposite of melatonin, that we need to sleep. So they’re on opposite ends, of course, when those are high then melatonin won’t be high. So yeah, you know, that can be… if we’re up late at night wondering why we can’t sleep that’s probably why we can’t get to sleep but we can have a lot of, you know, a lot of tactics to kind of, help with that and support that. And then, obviously, our mind that actually is also connected with the gut because the gut talks to the brain and vice versa. There’s a bi-directional communication between the brain and the gut. So that can make us influence our mood, make us anxious, cause raising thoughts and so on and it’s mainly because we have got a nerve that connects the brain and the gut, the vagus nerve, which I’m sure many of you probably have heard of and it’s important. You can actually exercise that. I’ll be talking a little bit about that later but yeah, it has lots of nerve endings in the gut. So, if the gut… I mean, the gut has lots of immune receptors, as I said before, immune chemicals, really, cytokines and different things that will communicate to the brain. So, you know, there’s this two-way communication that really is through the immune system, in many ways. A lot of things do actually get through the blood brain barrier and they can affect the brain and actually they think now a lot of things can be caused by brain inflammation to deal with the immune system, which they originally thought couldn't actually affect the brain. So that's another diversion that we could do another day.
Carol: I didn’t know that. That's very interesting. Yeah.
Marjorie: Gut brain access, yeah.
Carol: Yeah.
Marjorie: So yeah, so they’re psychological stages but even just the immediate effects of stress, obviously, the blood is not going to the brain cause we're running away from danger, then just that can cause brain fog in itself. We haven't got the brain and the brain needs a lot of energy actually to work. For stress, long term, that’s going to have a massive effect on our… just our own well-being and our weight… our ability to function in life and to make decisions and so on, and that’s quite key in menopause, as well, because oestrogen has quite… all people think oestrogen is just, you know, ovaries but actually they affect the brain quite a lot, as well, the oestrogen hormones.
Carol: That is interesting. Yes. How it all works together. Yeah.
Marjorie: So what can we do then? So first of all I thought I’d just talk about rewiring our brain, which I really like, you know, that… when I do nutritional therapy I do talk a lot about lifestyle techniques, as well. So it’s not purely nutrition because like I said, addressing stress and it’s not just only about the food, although that’s a big part of it, so obviously stress involves a lot of our thoughts and emotions and we can, you know, learn to renew our minds, which I think is really important but having said that, I think, that would allow us to touch on the spiritual aspect of things and I think, we have to allow that prompting, cause otherwise, I think, we’re just working hard on how to renew our minds, and it’s kind of counter-productive. Don’t know what you think about that.
Carol: Yeah. I can see… yeah. Yeah… where you’re coming from… yeah.
Marjorie: It helps to have that spiritual insight as to how to do that.
Carol: Absolutely.
Marjorie: That’s not to say we can’t try and practise a few positive things. So changing our negative self-talk is obviously gonna help and then… trying to be more optimistic about things and being full of gratitude, really does make a difference.
Carol: Yes. Yeah. No. Those… self-talk is a biggie. Isn’t it? We need to change that. The way you consider yourself and think about yourself. Yeah. Absolutely.
Marjorie: Yeah, about ourselves in particular, absolutely. I know. Also, we can also set ourselves up for a bit of failure, sometimes, by perceiving things in the negative. So, I suppose even doing talks, I’ve had to reframe that myself because I find it quite nerve wracking. So but it’s amazing how powerful our mind is. So if we start to reframe it a bit, you know, take the pressure off ourselves, in a away, then that can really help. So reframing certain things but I think a Monday morning is a good one, isn't it. When you go, “Oh it’s Monday morning!” Then we need to reframe that in our heads. It can be quite stressful.
Carol: Yes.
Marjorie: Another thing, obviously, is, you know, deep breathing and mindfulness, exercise really helps, even if it’s just 10 minutes out in the fresh air. Meditation, I think I mentioned that and even singing can help relax and all of those things actually train the vagas nerve, I mentioned. So we talk about the vagal term a lot and you can look it up, it’s really interesting. So it’s this nerve, it's one of the biggest nerves in the body and its responsible for getting us into rest and digest, which is the complete opposite of ‘fight and flight’ response. It’s often what I talk about to my clients, that we really need to get you resting and digesting because it’s much… it’s just better. Our body’s in a mode that we can build and repair when it’s like that. Whereas when it’s always in ‘fight and flight’ it can’t do that. It’s just surviving. It can’t rescue or mend and get better. So yes, those are some things that will help with retraining the vagas nerve. There’s also cold showers but that’s not always very popular.
Carol: No. I have tried it, though.
27:10
B VITAMINS ARE QUITE CRUCIAL FOR MENOPAUSE AND FOR STRESS
Marjorie: Yeah. So, now onto the nutrients that I was gonna talk about.
So key vitamins to support stress… now I would say B-vitamins are one of the main ones, you know, I don’t recommend supplements across the board. I’m sure you don’t either, Carol. It’s much more personalised. So I focus on food really, initially, and then if you’re done testing or if you really think that there’s one nutrient that’s going to be more beneficial that’s when I… for an individual, that’s when I would focus on a supplement. So yeah, for brain chemicals and for energy production, definitely B-vitamins that you can get in your leafy greens, nuts and seeds, and meat, fish and dairy, and bananas but a stressful time B-vitamins are a must have, you know, quite crucial at menopause and for stress.
Carol: Yeah. Yeah.
Marjorie: And then alongside that we’ve got vitamin C, which is important for your adrenal glands and they’re responsible for the production of the hormones. So again, you got vegetables
but more tomatoes, peppers, again leafy greens and broccoli. Now one of my favourite minerals is actually magnesium.
Carol: Yes, that’s it.
Marjorie: …where are you…
Carol: Very popular that one, yeah.
Marjorie: I like it because while it’s just got so many things it’s good… it gets depleted with stress and for women, quite often, they’re depleted in magnesium. So otherwise, for whatever reason, I think it’s just dietary, we don’t eat a lot of… eat a lot of refined foods. It’s in lots of foods actually but we tend to be depleted and it's good for stress, despite the relaxing mineral. It helps with the brain balance and then helps with the neuro transmitters in the brain and helps us to relax more. The main source that magnesium would be nuts and seeds, things like that.
Carol: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Marjorie: So the other thing I tend to often talk about, is obviously having good sources of protein to build the hormone. Like to build but you need to build hormones, in the first place, all over body and that also helps to stabilise our blood sugar levels and keep our metabolism running smoothly. Quite often I’m telling people to make sure they have some protein at breakfast. Especially for menopausal ladies. Our blood sugar gets affected by your hormones, believe or not, can I actually make… just makes us more vulnerable with a lack of oestrogen. All these things are more sensitive or gut’s more sensitive, if our blood sugar is more sensitive. So having… if you eat eggs at breakfast or including lots of nuts and seeds and things like that but obviously every meal ideally but our vegetarian sources are available, aren’t they?
Carol: Yes. Yeah.
Marjorie: Greens and Tofu. Tofu is great menopausal time because it’s also a fight to oestrogen.
Carol: Oh really. That's good. Yeah.
Marjorie: Phyto-oestrogens have sometimes got a bad rap but they are quite well researched. There’s a few of them. They’re natural, mainly plants products in essence and plant foods and they can mimic oestrogen but not in a dangerous way. So they’re helping modulate it. So they’re attached to the receptors that they need to be attached to. So if you’ve got excess oestrogen, they will help to dumping it and if you’ve got less they will also adapt. So then lots of plant foods, like lentils and beans, even in carrots, I believe and then it was… soya is the top one, really. Tofu and soya bean, things like that. That’s a good one for menopause. The focus on blood sugar, I think it’s so key because stress will actually mess up our blood sugar because the cortisol that gets secreted actually increases, you know, because the body wants to run away. It says, “Oh, you need more insulin. You need more sugar in your blood stream.” So, you know, it affects all of that process. So keeping our, you know, having complex carbohydrates in your diet and by that I mean unrefined foods, really, natural, have as natural as you can get them. The brown versions.
Carol: Yes.
Marjorie: The brown versions but then what all people often forget, is you don't… it doesn't have to be grains. You can eat starch, carbohydrates in the form of vegetable that are quite nice and not so much your white potatoes, though, but things like sweet potato, squash, even carrots, parsnips, liereac, things like that. That can really help to give you the
carbohydrates without having to have grains, which can be inflammatory at times, having too many grains. So does that help? Is that...?
Carol: Yeah. No but that sounds fantastic. Amazing. Yeah. Very interesting.
Marjorie: Good. So, yeah, I probably… I could go on and on, to be honest but you can have too much information, can you? It’s a work. That’s kind of how I work with my clients, actually. I don’t… we don’t overload you with loads of stuff to do. I do mainly do one-to-one with nutritional consultations. I do it in packages but I have a few one-off ways of working with people, as well, to give them an introduction.
So the one I was gonna talk about today, is my menopause review that I do. But actually I could do that around any health concerns. So it doesn’t need to be around menopause but what we do is, we personalise, so there is a short form to fill in but it’s a tailored look at your health and we can address one topic. So perhaps it was sleep or gut health, or could be menopausal symptoms and it gives you a sort of introduction to nutritional therapy, if that could be something that you could be interested in. So, yeah.
Carol: Yeah, so I mean you could do it for men on gut health, as you you’re saying. Any other…
Marjorie: Absolutely.
Carol: Yeah. Would you do things like that for back problems and things like that, as well?
Marjorie: Yeah. I do have people coming for that, for muscular and stuff like that, yeah. We do get things like that.
Carol: ‘Cos that’s a big problem, isn’t it, as well. A lot of back problems. Yeah. Most of the problems…
Marjorie: When people fill a form in other things come to light, you know. So, we go back in history, as well. It’s amazing what can show up.
Carol: Yes. Yeah. No. That sounds really good. Yes. Thank you. So people would come to you when you would do one of those… getting them to fill in a form about… whatever issue.
Marjorie: Yeah and also I’m happy to do a discovery call, which will be free to have a chat. For people that want to have a chat. That’s free thing. I would do an offer for 99 pounds, for the review.
Carol: Alright. I see. That’s really good.
Marjorie: Free rediscovery call, which is all on my website. You can send a little email that and it’s always quite good to have a chat first, anyway, isn’t it?
Carol: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, that would be really good.
Marjorie: All right.
Carol: Oh wow. Thank you. That's a lot of information and a lot of useful tips and hints about what to do. So especially with the food, this is always good to know which foods are best to
eat. Leafy greens always seem to come up on top, whatever you're talking about.
Marjorie: Absolutely. Yes.
Carol: Anyway, thank you very much Marjorie. We hope to speak to you soon, again.
Marjorie: Thank you. Bye now.
Carol: Bye.
Yes. So, thank you everybody.
So, this is Carol signing off from the CJG Wellness team. Look forward to seeing you again next week.
Bye for now.
I’m Marjorie, a menopause nutritionist and nutritional therapist based in York. My passion is to help women in their mid-years live a healthier life, filled with energy, reducing painful and embarrassing symptoms both prior and post menopause.
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